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  • 6 Developing online outliners (98)
    • 6 (27) Portable data. OPML is inadequate.
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        • 6 asdasdasd (2)
          • [+] Other tools use it (0) Radioland and numerous other utilities readily create and consume OPML files.
          • [-] It's missing descriptions as a standard data element (0) For example, it'd be nice to be able to create outlines of blog entries. Not nicely crowbarred into OPML.
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        • 6 Use topic maps (3)
          • [+] Very powerful for declaring relationships between items (0) And rather chic these days.
          • [-] Difficult to extract information from (0) Developing a script to render a topic map on a web page requires a small development staff. Too complicated.
          • [-] Overkill1111 (0) We just want to do outlines.
        • 6 ATOM and RSS (2)
          • [+] Widespread adoption (0)
          • [-] No accepted hierarchical data structures (0)
        • 6 ATOM and RSS (2)
          • [+] Widespread adoption (0)
          • [-] No accepted hierarchical data structures (0)
        • 6 Create something new (2) My leading proposal is for a hierarchical RSS. Many of the same fields, plus a few more to support outline rendering (eg. expansion state).
          • [+] Aim to create something fresh and useful, yet familiar and accessible (0)
          • [+] Merge RSS and OPML? (0)
    • 6 Design issues (36)
      • 6 Server side (10) Lightweight. Connectivity not required.
        • THis is the first line (0)
        • 6 (7) Many people write and think while not connected to the net. Seems like disconnected editing is important, so it should be installable on a laptop.
        • Minimal configuration required (0) Ideally, just unzip and copy some files, tweak a configuration parameter or two.
      • Png files (0)
      • 6 Gif files (1)
      • Dog (0)
      • 4 Storage strategy (8) File or database?
        • 6 File (2)
          • [+] Simple and familiar (0)
          • [-] Rather limited regarding application functionality (0)
        • 6 Database (4)
          • 6 [-] More difficult to design, build, install, and use (2)
            • Harder to manage data (0) Requires insertion/extraction processes, which can be cumbersome and obscure.
            • Installation and portability (0) Platform limitations. More restrictive system requirements. Administration complexities.
          • [+] More powerful functionality is possible (0) Allows for the development of more sophisticated features: User tracking, archiving, auditing, item reuse, access control.
      • 4 Outline data structures (6) What does an outline item consist of? What ways can items be related to one another, beside parent-child? How do you represent transclusion relationships?
        • 6 Editable fields in Dynamic List (4)
          • Title (0)
          • URL (0)
          • Description (0)
          • Subnodes collapsed (0) Dave's expansion state, but stored properly--as an item attribute.
        • User-defined fields? (0) Separate the outline node data structures from the outline item data structures. This would allow for multiple types of items. Some examples: contacts, web log entries, scheduled events, locations.
      • 4 Collaboration (2) One outline with multiple contributors.
        • People who trust one another sharing outlines (0) For example, a list of project resources should be editable by any of the project's team members.
        • Input from random anonymous users (0) Perhaps my list of pointers to web resources is out of date. Should I allow you to update it for me, a la wikis?
      • 4 Transclusion (1) On-page transclusion of outlines between domains.
        • Another form of collaboration (0) This form of collaboration has well-defined boundaries.
    • 4 Applications (2) Test
      • Utility for content creation in personal web log sites (0) Content creation tool for creating dense, well-organized, easily maintained hierarchical lists of information.
      • Personal information management (0) For those who need online access to their PIM content.
    • 6 Outliners (7)
      • (0) http://www.ioutliner.com/
      • (0) http://www.virtual-sky.com/
      • OmniOutliner (0) http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnioutliner/
      • Ecco Pro (0) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecco_Pro
      • InfoQube (0) http://www.infoqube.biz/Home
      • MyInfo (0) http://www.milenix.com/myinfo-features.php
      • Ecco Magic (0) http://www.eccomagic.com/
    • 6 Live applications (17)
      • CarbonFin (0) http://carbonfin.com/index.html
      • 4 My list(1) (7) http://www.ioutliner.com/
      • Loose Stitch (0) http://www.loosestitch.com/
      • 4 (4) http://sproutliner.com/
      • Todoist (0) http://todoist.com/
      • iJot (0) http://www.ijot.net/
    • 6 Discussion (3)
      • Online Outliner - To Do List Manager: Todoist (0) http://routineorder.com/filed/2007/04/02/online-outliner-to-do-list-manager-todoist/
      • Tools:Online Outliner (0) http://www.openideaproject.org/openidea/940544691/index_html
      • Online Outliners for The Planner in You (0) http://thenextweb.com/2008/10/22/online-outliners/
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